I Had a Good Life in Santa Monica. I Wanted to Feel Alive (Da Nang, Vietnam)

When is someday? And who decides when is When is someday? And who decides when is someday? [music] And is someday allowed someday? [music] And is someday allowed someday? [music] And is someday allowed to be now? Am I allowed? Am I allowed to to be now? Am I allowed? Am I allowed to to be now? Am I allowed? Am I allowed to do things now? Next item on today's do things now? Next item on today's do things now? Next item on today's agenda is something that should be agenda is something that should be agenda is something that should be pretty fun. I'm actually going to go be pretty fun. I'm actually going to go be pretty fun. I'm actually going to go be on Hi, buddy. Neighborhood dog. Um, on Hi, buddy. Neighborhood dog. Um, on Hi, buddy. Neighborhood dog. Um, somebody's podcast. So, it's called Faux somebody's podcast. So, it's called Faux somebody's podcast. So, it's called Faux Real. Ph real. And I actually have not Real. Ph real. And I actually have not Real. Ph real. And I actually have not met the interviewer, but I'm friends met the interviewer, but I'm friends met the interviewer, but I'm friends with the podcast studio owner and he's with the podcast studio owner and he's with the podcast studio owner and he's also the producer. So, I guess Hello. also the producer. So, I guess Hello. also the producer. So, I guess Hello. Um, I'm also passing up pickle ball Um, I'm also passing up pickle ball Um, I'm also passing up pickle ball here. [laughter] here. [laughter] here. [laughter] All kinds of things going on. My friend All kinds of things going on. My friend All kinds of things going on. My friend there owns the motorcycle shop and we there owns the motorcycle shop and we there owns the motorcycle shop and we have pickle ball. We got traffic. The have pickle ball. We got traffic. The have pickle ball. We got traffic. The idea is that it's just a free flowing idea is that it's just a free flowing idea is that it's just a free flowing conversation. So, I'm walking to the conversation. So, I'm walking to the conversation. So, I'm walking to the podcast studio right now. I haven't been podcast studio right now. I haven't been podcast studio right now. I haven't been there yet, but it is u walking distance there yet, but it is u walking distance there yet, but it is u walking distance to my place. So, this is going to be to my place. So, this is going to be to my place. So, this is going to be fun. I think that he is planning on fun. I think that he is planning on fun. I think that he is planning on asking um he has an audience of about asking um he has an audience of about asking um he has an audience of about 13,000 probably a similar demographic of 13,000 probably a similar demographic of 13,000 probably a similar demographic of mine. He's from San Diego. He's here mine. He's from San Diego. He's here mine. He's from San Diego. He's here living now uh married with a small child living now uh married with a small child living now uh married with a small child but originally San Diego um real estate.

but originally San Diego um real estate. but originally San Diego um real estate. So, So, So, without getting in anybody's way or without getting in anybody's way or without getting in anybody's way or walking into traffic, let's cross the walking into traffic, let's cross the walking into traffic, let's cross the street here. And um >> yeah, I think we're just going to talk >> yeah, I think we're just going to talk about things, you know, life in Vietnam about things, you know, life in Vietnam about things, you know, life in Vietnam and maybe a little bit about my and maybe a little bit about my and maybe a little bit about my background or my journey. We're not background or my journey. We're not background or my journey. We're not sure. Let's uh just go have fun with it. sure. Let's uh just go have fun with it. sure. Let's uh just go have fun with it. So, looking forward to this. Let me just So, looking forward to this. Let me just So, looking forward to this. Let me just say I am roasting hot. I have on a linen say I am roasting hot. I have on a linen say I am roasting hot. I have on a linen shirt, shorts, and flip-flops. shirt, shorts, and flip-flops. shirt, shorts, and flip-flops. Like just rubbery sandals, the norm Like just rubbery sandals, the norm Like just rubbery sandals, the norm around here. But just the weight of this around here. But just the weight of this around here. But just the weight of this linen shirt combined with the heat linen shirt combined with the heat linen shirt combined with the heat outside, outside, outside, it's so hot out. Um, it's so hot out. Um, it's so hot out. Um, I'm sure we're going to be in air I'm sure we're going to be in air I'm sure we're going to be in air conditioning soon, but I was just conditioning soon, but I was just conditioning soon, but I was just reflecting that one of the things that I reflecting that one of the things that I reflecting that one of the things that I love about this lifestyle is you just love about this lifestyle is you just love about this lifestyle is you just never know. And I know that I say that never know. And I know that I say that never know. And I know that I say that all the time. You can't anticipate all the time. You can't anticipate all the time. You can't anticipate what's going to happen dayto day and you what's going to happen dayto day and you what's going to happen dayto day and you just never know what opportunities are just never know what opportunities are just never know what opportunities are going to come your way. So, oh, I think going to come your way. So, oh, I think going to come your way. So, oh, I think about a week and a half ago, I went down about a week and a half ago, I went down about a week and a half ago, I went down to Hoyan and I was in a lifestyle shoot to Hoyan and I was in a lifestyle shoot to Hoyan and I was in a lifestyle shoot for a five-star for a five-star for a five-star resort and spa, which was super fun. And resort and spa, which was super fun. And resort and spa, which was super fun. And then I was at a fireworks event and my then I was at a fireworks event and my then I was at a fireworks event and my friend said, "Hey, do you want to be on friend said, "Hey, do you want to be on friend said, "Hey, do you want to be on the podcast?" Like, "Okay." And the podcast?" Like, "Okay." And the podcast?" Like, "Okay." And you just I just never know what's next.

you just I just never know what's next. you just I just never know what's next. But part of it is being here and being But part of it is being here and being But part of it is being here and being available and meeting people. And so I available and meeting people. And so I available and meeting people. And so I do kind all kinds of things that do kind all kinds of things that do kind all kinds of things that I've never done before and I wouldn't be I've never done before and I wouldn't be I've never done before and I wouldn't be doing in my old life if I was still doing in my old life if I was still doing in my old life if I was still right now if I was in Santa Monica. So, right now if I was in Santa Monica. So, right now if I was in Santa Monica. So, as much as I love both places, I really as much as I love both places, I really as much as I love both places, I really enjoy the variety and the new things enjoy the variety and the new things enjoy the variety and the new things that I continue to experience here on a that I continue to experience here on a that I continue to experience here on a daily basis, especially as Daang is daily basis, especially as Daang is daily basis, especially as Daang is growing and growing and growing and there's so many more people and there's so many more people and there's so many more people and activities and life going on. So, we activities and life going on. So, we activities and life going on. So, we will be back soon. I'm almost there. I will be back soon. I'm almost there. I will be back soon. I'm almost there. I just checked my phone, just checked my phone, just checked my phone, guys. guys. guys. It's 700 p.m. and it is the temperature It's 700 p.m. and it is the temperature It's 700 p.m. and it is the temperature outside 89 degrees Fahrenheit with a outside 89 degrees Fahrenheit with a outside 89 degrees Fahrenheit with a real feel of 91 degrees. real feel of 91 degrees. real feel of 91 degrees. And when a breeze blows, it's just like And when a breeze blows, it's just like And when a breeze blows, it's just like when you open up the oven, the heat when you open up the oven, the heat when you open up the oven, the heat blows in your face. For our European blows in your face. For our European blows in your face. For our European friends, that is 31° C.

friends, that is 31° C. friends, that is 31° C. It's hot. It's hot. It's hot. Summer in uh Summer in uh Summer in uh Vietnam, hot nights. Well, I just walked Vietnam, hot nights. Well, I just walked Vietnam, hot nights. Well, I just walked through the cutest neighborhood and look through the cutest neighborhood and look through the cutest neighborhood and look this alleyway I'm going down. this alleyway I'm going down. this alleyway I'm going down. It's so It's so It's so cute. I love this neighborhood. I'm for cute. I love this neighborhood. I'm for cute. I love this neighborhood. I'm for local friends. I'm right in from Puna local friends. I'm right in from Puna local friends. I'm right in from Puna Cafe which has great great great coffee, Cafe which has great great great coffee, Cafe which has great great great coffee, their own coffee roaster, organic their own coffee roaster, organic their own coffee roaster, organic coffee. And this is just so cute. So, coffee. And this is just so cute. So, coffee. And this is just so cute. So, let's go find the studio. let's go find the studio. let's go find the studio. >> We have Walkabout Studio. Let's check >> We have Walkabout Studio. Let's check >> We have Walkabout Studio. Let's check this place out. Oh, this place out. Oh, this place out. Oh, piano session. piano session. piano session. >> Look at all this. Got some cameras. We have We have >> total setup. >> total setup. >> total setup. I guess we'll sit here and talk. Here's I guess we'll sit here and talk. Here's I guess we'll sit here and talk. Here's the uh podcast background. That's Brian the uh podcast background. That's Brian the uh podcast background. That's Brian who just arrived. Also, who just arrived. Also, who just arrived. Also, this is going to be so fun.

this is going to be so fun. this is going to be so fun. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I've never [gasps] >> I've never [gasps] >> I've never [gasps] sat at a table with mics and been sat at a table with mics and been sat at a table with mics and been recorded. So, here we are. It's gonna be recorded. So, here we are. It's gonna be recorded. So, here we are. It's gonna be fun. fun. fun. >> If anybody's ever wondering about >> If anybody's ever wondering about >> If anybody's ever wondering about filming a podcast and hasn't done it, filming a podcast and hasn't done it, filming a podcast and hasn't done it, like myself, like myself, like myself, >> here you go. We're doing it behind the >> here you go. We're doing it behind the >> here you go. We're doing it behind the scenes. scenes. scenes. >> It's in the bottom of my friend's house. >> It's in the bottom of my friend's house. >> It's in the bottom of my friend's house. It's on um just one side of the It's on um just one side of the It's on um just one side of the downstairs. So, Anthony Bourdain, the downstairs. So, Anthony Bourdain, the downstairs. So, Anthony Bourdain, the world reveals itself to those who world reveals itself to those who world reveals itself to those who listen. Yes. Nice. listen. Yes. Nice. listen. Yes. Nice. >> Hello. Hey. [laughter] >> Hello. Hey. [laughter] >> Hello. Hey. [laughter] >> Got the gorgeous Amy, hostess, hostess >> Got the gorgeous Amy, hostess, hostess >> Got the gorgeous Amy, hostess, hostess of the house. of the house. of the house. >> I'm so excited to have Susan here at the >> I'm so excited to have Susan here at the >> I'm so excited to have Susan here at the studio and on Brian's podcast, the Fel studio and on Brian's podcast, the Fel studio and on Brian's podcast, the Fel Real Podcast. This is going to be so Real Podcast. This is going to be so Real Podcast. This is going to be so much fun and thank you so much for much fun and thank you so much for much fun and thank you so much for coming. coming. coming. >> Of course. Of course. We're going to >> Of course. Of course. We're going to >> Of course. Of course. We're going to have a great time. have a great time. have a great time. >> Great conversation. >> Great conversation. >> Great conversation. >> Looking forward to it. >> Looking forward to it. >> Looking forward to it. >> Great. Welcome back to the podcast for >> Great. Welcome back to the podcast for >> Great. Welcome back to the podcast for real podcast and um today's episode we real podcast and um today's episode we real podcast and um today's episode we have Susan Y have Susan Y have Susan Y >> come to join us. Thank you very much >> come to join us. Thank you very much >> come to join us. Thank you very much Susan.

Susan. Susan. >> You're welcome. I'm happy to be here. >> You're welcome. I'm happy to be here. >> You're welcome. I'm happy to be here. >> Yeah, it's great to see you and great to >> Yeah, it's great to see you and great to >> Yeah, it's great to see you and great to have you here. So you had a career in um have you here. So you had a career in um have you here. So you had a career in um Santa Monica. Santa Monica. Santa Monica. >> I did. I had a career well after I >> I did. I had a career well after I >> I did. I had a career well after I graduated from university. I started in graduated from university. I started in graduated from university. I started in software implementations. software implementations. software implementations. >> So I had a whole career in implementing >> So I had a whole career in implementing >> So I had a whole career in implementing large software systems for companies. large software systems for companies. large software systems for companies. the they call it ERP software which is the they call it ERP software which is the they call it ERP software which is enterprise resource planning so like HR enterprise resource planning so like HR enterprise resource planning so like HR benefits payroll benefits payroll benefits payroll >> the behindthe-scenes software that >> the behindthe-scenes software that >> the behindthe-scenes software that processes processes processes >> at night to execute a company's business >> at night to execute a company's business >> at night to execute a company's business processes so I went from a career in processes so I went from a career in processes so I went from a career in that which was very detailed teams that which was very detailed teams that which was very detailed teams client work I traveled client work I traveled client work I traveled >> many times a 100% of the time so I'd >> many times a 100% of the time so I'd >> many times a 100% of the time so I'd leave the house on a Sunday fly to leave the house on a Sunday fly to leave the house on a Sunday fly to wherever my client was get a rental car wherever my client was get a rental car wherever my client was get a rental car go to the hotel, check in, iron your go to the hotel, check in, iron your go to the hotel, check in, iron your clothes, get prepared for your meetings, clothes, get prepared for your meetings, clothes, get prepared for your meetings, and then drive the rental car to the and then drive the rental car to the and then drive the rental car to the client's office the next morning, Monday client's office the next morning, Monday client's office the next morning, Monday morning, and then work all week, and morning, and then work all week, and morning, and then work all week, and then at the end of the week, fly back to then at the end of the week, fly back to then at the end of the week, fly back to where I lived. And that's what all of us where I lived. And that's what all of us where I lived. And that's what all of us consultants did is you just wanted to be consultants did is you just wanted to be consultants did is you just wanted to be close to an airport so you could work close to an airport so you could work close to an airport so you could work on-site at your client and then be home on-site at your client and then be home on-site at your client and then be home on the weekends. And what's funny about on the weekends. And what's funny about on the weekends. And what's funny about now versus then is I was telling someone now versus then is I was telling someone now versus then is I was telling someone the other day, we used to track our time the other day, we used to track our time the other day, we used to track our time in 15inute increments because our time in 15inute increments because our time in 15inute increments because our time was billable to a client. Oh, was billable to a client. Oh, was billable to a client. Oh, >> okay.

>> okay. >> okay. >> And so it was each one was called a unit >> And so it was each one was called a unit >> And so it was each one was called a unit of time. of time. of time. >> So I might spend an hour and 15 minutes >> So I might spend an hour and 15 minutes >> So I might spend an hour and 15 minutes working on one client's work. And so working on one client's work. And so working on one client's work. And so that's five units. So I was hyper aware that's five units. So I was hyper aware that's five units. So I was hyper aware of every minute of every day, what time of every minute of every day, what time of every minute of every day, what time it was, what needed to be done for it was, what needed to be done for it was, what needed to be done for multiple clients, presentations or uh multiple clients, presentations or uh multiple clients, presentations or uh configuration or managing a team. And configuration or managing a team. And configuration or managing a team. And it's such a drastic change upcoming year it's such a drastic change upcoming year it's such a drastic change upcoming year because with combined with tracking our because with combined with tracking our because with combined with tracking our time and being hyper aware of all the time and being hyper aware of all the time and being hyper aware of all the moving pieces and then also needing to moving pieces and then also needing to moving pieces and then also needing to book travel ahead of time, I knew where book travel ahead of time, I knew where book travel ahead of time, I knew where I was going to be, I was going to be, I was going to be, >> you know, Tuesday, three weeks from now >> you know, Tuesday, three weeks from now >> you know, Tuesday, three weeks from now at two o'clock. at two o'clock. at two o'clock. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I knew that weeks in advance. And so >> And I knew that weeks in advance. And so >> And I knew that weeks in advance. And so when I would say call home and talk to when I would say call home and talk to when I would say call home and talk to my mom and she's like, "What day is my mom and she's like, "What day is my mom and she's like, "What day is today?" I'm like, "Mom, like how can you today?" I'm like, "Mom, like how can you today?" I'm like, "Mom, like how can you not know this?" not know this?" not know this?" >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> Like, and then I remember I started >> Like, and then I remember I started >> Like, and then I remember I started traveling doing the slow travel. traveling doing the slow travel. traveling doing the slow travel. >> And so here I am. This was 2017. I was >> And so here I am. This was 2017. I was >> And so here I am. This was 2017. I was going top to bottom in Vietnam. I'm down going top to bottom in Vietnam. I'm down going top to bottom in Vietnam. I'm down on Fukuquok Island. And I loved it so on Fukuquok Island. And I loved it so on Fukuquok Island. And I loved it so much I decided to stay for a few weeks. much I decided to stay for a few weeks. much I decided to stay for a few weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I'll never forget the moment I was >> And I'll never forget the moment I was >> And I'll never forget the moment I was on the beach and I was talking with a on the beach and I was talking with a on the beach and I was talking with a friend and I said, "Wait, what what friend and I said, "Wait, what what friend and I said, "Wait, what what month is it? Is it February or March?

month is it? Is it February or March? month is it? Is it February or March? And I thought, this used to drive me And I thought, this used to drive me And I thought, this used to drive me crazy. Like, how do I not know? crazy. Like, how do I not know? crazy. Like, how do I not know? >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> But it's such a drastic change. And now >> But it's such a drastic change. And now >> But it's such a drastic change. And now with so much activity and this with so much activity and this with so much activity and this lifestyle, lifestyle, lifestyle, >> I don't always remember for a while what >> I don't always remember for a while what >> I don't always remember for a while what day of the week it is or day of the week it is or day of the week it is or >> the day will I'll go through the day. >> the day will I'll go through the day. >> the day will I'll go through the day. >> I have a general idea of the time, >> I have a general idea of the time, >> I have a general idea of the time, right? right? right? >> But not specifically. >> But not specifically. >> But not specifically. >> Yeah, me too. Like the other day, I had >> Yeah, me too. Like the other day, I had >> Yeah, me too. Like the other day, I had to ask my wife what year it was. I to ask my wife what year it was. I to ask my wife what year it was. I [laughter] really I did. I was like, "Is [laughter] really I did. I was like, "Is [laughter] really I did. I was like, "Is it 25?" No, it was 26. So, it 25?" No, it was 26. So, it 25?" No, it was 26. So, >> yeah. When I first moved here, I >> yeah. When I first moved here, I >> yeah. When I first moved here, I remember dropping my laundry off at one remember dropping my laundry off at one remember dropping my laundry off at one of the little home laundromats. of the little home laundromats. of the little home laundromats. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I asked when it would be finished, >> And I asked when it would be finished, >> And I asked when it would be finished, and he said, "Tomorrow." and he said, "Tomorrow." and he said, "Tomorrow." >> Like, what? What do you mean? Tomorrow >> Like, what? What do you mean? Tomorrow >> Like, what? What do you mean? Tomorrow 10:00 a.m. Yeah. 10:00 a.m. Yeah. 10:00 a.m. Yeah. >> Tomorrow is 6 p.m. >> Tomorrow is 6 p.m. >> Tomorrow is 6 p.m. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's like, "Tomorrow." >> He's like, "Tomorrow." >> He's like, "Tomorrow." >> And I thought, "How how can you run a >> And I thought, "How how can you run a >> And I thought, "How how can you run a business if it's just tomorrow? That business if it's just tomorrow? That business if it's just tomorrow? That doesn't make sense to me." doesn't make sense to me." doesn't make sense to me." >> And like, I need to know. And what I >> And like, I need to know. And what I >> And like, I need to know. And what I learned, I thought that it was it's learned, I thought that it was it's learned, I thought that it was it's funny to me now to look back because I funny to me now to look back because I funny to me now to look back because I thought that needs to be fixed. I need a thought that needs to be fixed. I need a thought that needs to be fixed. I need a a time whether it's 10 or six. And then a time whether it's 10 or six. And then a time whether it's 10 or six. And then I realized they just keep moving and I realized they just keep moving and I realized they just keep moving and they do things in order and when it's they do things in order and when it's they do things in order and when it's done, it's done.

done, it's done. done, it's done. >> And the way that I now operate is >> And the way that I now operate is >> And the way that I now operate is >> go by at the end of the day or the next >> go by at the end of the day or the next >> go by at the end of the day or the next day. I just plan for that when I happen day. I just plan for that when I happen day. I just plan for that when I happen to be walking by, to be walking by, to be walking by, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And it all works out. Everybody's happy. >> And it all works out. Everybody's happy. >> And it all works out. Everybody's happy. Nobody's upset. And I thought, no one's Nobody's upset. And I thought, no one's Nobody's upset. And I thought, no one's upset about things being done on time upset about things being done on time upset about things being done on time because there is no done on time, because there is no done on time, because there is no done on time, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And as a result, I'm a lot happier. >> And as a result, I'm a lot happier. >> And as a result, I'm a lot happier. >> I was gonna ask, when did you started um >> I was gonna ask, when did you started um >> I was gonna ask, when did you started um thinking of leaving the US and you know, thinking of leaving the US and you know, thinking of leaving the US and you know, slow travel or, you know, quit your job? slow travel or, you know, quit your job? slow travel or, you know, quit your job? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um just decide to make that jump. >> Um just decide to make that jump. >> Um just decide to make that jump. >> I never Well, I haven't yet. I haven't >> I never Well, I haven't yet. I haven't >> I never Well, I haven't yet. I haven't made the decision. [laughter] made the decision. [laughter] made the decision. [laughter] >> Uh but I've been here over two years, so >> Uh but I've been here over two years, so >> Uh but I've been here over two years, so it's I'm not a drastic person. So people it's I'm not a drastic person. So people it's I'm not a drastic person. So people say I, you know, sold everything and say I, you know, sold everything and say I, you know, sold everything and moved somewhere new. And moved somewhere new. And moved somewhere new. And >> I'm more of the, you know, slow and >> I'm more of the, you know, slow and >> I'm more of the, you know, slow and steady and make sure that there's this steady and make sure that there's this steady and make sure that there's this few stepping stones in front of you. few stepping stones in front of you. few stepping stones in front of you. Make sure that, you know, you're not Make sure that, you know, you're not Make sure that, you know, you're not going to have regrets, more planful. going to have regrets, more planful. going to have regrets, more planful. >> So for me, and it and I also didn't know >> So for me, and it and I also didn't know >> So for me, and it and I also didn't know that this is what I wanted to do. What that this is what I wanted to do. What that this is what I wanted to do. What happened is that I decided to take a happened is that I decided to take a happened is that I decided to take a year off work and just go travel, do year off work and just go travel, do year off work and just go travel, do everything that I ever wanted to do for everything that I ever wanted to do for everything that I ever wanted to do for a year. So, I thought, I'm going to take a year. So, I thought, I'm going to take a year. So, I thought, I'm going to take this year off and I got my health this year off and I got my health this year off and I got my health coaching certification because I love I coaching certification because I love I coaching certification because I love I really love health and wellness and I'd really love health and wellness and I'd really love health and wellness and I'd always been interested in it. I just always been interested in it. I just always been interested in it. I just didn't feel like I had the time to take didn't feel like I had the time to take didn't feel like I had the time to take the course while I was working and I'm the course while I was working and I'm the course while I was working and I'm going to go to Whole Foods and I'm going going to go to Whole Foods and I'm going going to go to Whole Foods and I'm going to read labels and I'm going to pet dogs to read labels and I'm going to pet dogs to read labels and I'm going to pet dogs and I'm going to not know what time it and I'm going to not know what time it and I'm going to not know what time it is and I'm going to also do some is and I'm going to also do some is and I'm going to also do some traveling. I'm going to sleep in.

traveling. I'm going to sleep in. traveling. I'm going to sleep in. >> And it was funny that first Monday >> And it was funny that first Monday >> And it was funny that first Monday morning when I woke up it was I was in morning when I woke up it was I was in morning when I woke up it was I was in the living room. It's like 8 o'clock in the living room. It's like 8 o'clock in the living room. It's like 8 o'clock in the morning and I thought, "What do I do the morning and I thought, "What do I do the morning and I thought, "What do I do now?" It's it feels very indulgent. I now?" It's it feels very indulgent. I now?" It's it feels very indulgent. I decided to watch a Netflix movie decided to watch a Netflix movie decided to watch a Netflix movie >> because it just sounded crazy. Yeah. >> because it just sounded crazy. Yeah. >> because it just sounded crazy. Yeah. >> On a Monday. But >> On a Monday. But >> On a Monday. But >> what I did is I incorporated some >> what I did is I incorporated some >> what I did is I incorporated some travel. I wanted to go do some travel. I wanted to go do some travel. I wanted to go do some philanthropic work. I wasn't sure what. philanthropic work. I wasn't sure what. philanthropic work. I wasn't sure what. >> Long story short, I ended up going to >> Long story short, I ended up going to >> Long story short, I ended up going to Tanzania, Africa to work on a clean Tanzania, Africa to work on a clean Tanzania, Africa to work on a clean water well project. And I loved it. And water well project. And I loved it. And water well project. And I loved it. And I felt ways that I hadn't felt in a long I felt ways that I hadn't felt in a long I felt ways that I hadn't felt in a long time. like childlike time. like childlike time. like childlike >> joy, experience, different smells, >> joy, experience, different smells, >> joy, experience, different smells, tastes, foods, community, and tastes, foods, community, and tastes, foods, community, and >> also had tears. There were things that >> also had tears. There were things that >> also had tears. There were things that were more jarring and upsetting that I were more jarring and upsetting that I were more jarring and upsetting that I hadn't experienced in a while. My life hadn't experienced in a while. My life hadn't experienced in a while. My life was very was very was very >> steady in a range of emotion in Santa >> steady in a range of emotion in Santa >> steady in a range of emotion in Santa Monica. Monica. Monica. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I remember thinking, "Oh, I want >> And I remember thinking, "Oh, I want >> And I remember thinking, "Oh, I want more of this more of this more of this >> and I'm not ready to go back yet." And >> and I'm not ready to go back yet." And >> and I'm not ready to go back yet." And so I scheduled a trip north to south so I scheduled a trip north to south so I scheduled a trip north to south Vietnam. And I'll never forget being in Vietnam. And I'll never forget being in Vietnam. And I'll never forget being in Chiang Mai at a girls get together and Chiang Mai at a girls get together and Chiang Mai at a girls get together and you know how you always go around the you know how you always go around the you know how you always go around the room and you say, "Where are you from?

room and you say, "Where are you from? room and you say, "Where are you from? How long are you traveling here?" And How long are you traveling here?" And How long are you traveling here?" And people are saying, "Oh, I'm you know, people are saying, "Oh, I'm you know, people are saying, "Oh, I'm you know, Katie, I'm from the US, but I haven't Katie, I'm from the US, but I haven't Katie, I'm from the US, but I haven't been there in seven years." I'm like, been there in seven years." I'm like, been there in seven years." I'm like, >> "How how is that possible?" Or, "I'm >> "How how is that possible?" Or, "I'm >> "How how is that possible?" Or, "I'm from this country, but I've lived in from this country, but I've lived in from this country, but I've lived in this other country for the last four this other country for the last four this other country for the last four years, and now I'm here." And everyone's years, and now I'm here." And everyone's years, and now I'm here." And everyone's sharing their adventures and their sharing their adventures and their sharing their adventures and their travels and everybody's loving their travels and everybody's loving their travels and everybody's loving their life and the atmosphere was so life and the atmosphere was so life and the atmosphere was so positive like, "Hey, do you want to go positive like, "Hey, do you want to go positive like, "Hey, do you want to go hiking tomorrow?" "Oh, no. I'm going to hiking tomorrow?" "Oh, no. I'm going to hiking tomorrow?" "Oh, no. I'm going to go see elephants. Do you want to go do a go see elephants. Do you want to go do a go see elephants. Do you want to go do a yoga class or I'm starting this new yoga class or I'm starting this new yoga class or I'm starting this new thing or I'm going to go on this weekend thing or I'm going to go on this weekend thing or I'm going to go on this weekend travel to Hong Kong?" And I'm like, travel to Hong Kong?" And I'm like, travel to Hong Kong?" And I'm like, "Wait a second. [laughter] This is what "Wait a second. [laughter] This is what "Wait a second. [laughter] This is what I want." I want." I want." >> So, I just kept doing it. >> So, I just kept doing it. >> So, I just kept doing it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I would go and I thought, "Okay, I'm >> And I would go and I thought, "Okay, I'm >> And I would go and I thought, "Okay, I'm just going to go on a like a five-month just going to go on a like a five-month just going to go on a like a five-month trip," which seemed very long and trip," which seemed very long and trip," which seemed very long and extravagant at the time. But then I'll extravagant at the time. But then I'll extravagant at the time. But then I'll probably go back to work. probably go back to work. probably go back to work. >> And I remember being here, but I need to go home and someone goes, but I need to go home and someone goes, "Do you like why?" "Do you like why?" "Do you like why?" >> I'm like, "Do I?" >> I'm like, "Do I?" >> I'm like, "Do I?" >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And that's when you start doing the do >> And that's when you start doing the do >> And that's when you start doing the do I? I? I? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Do I need to go home? What brings me >> Do I need to go home? What brings me >> Do I need to go home? What brings me joy? Where is that spark of life? Do I joy? Where is that spark of life? Do I joy? Where is that spark of life? Do I need to uh I know some of my friends are need to uh I know some of my friends are need to uh I know some of my friends are taking care of ailing parents or they taking care of ailing parents or they taking care of ailing parents or they have kids at home and I thought, "But I have kids at home and I thought, "But I have kids at home and I thought, "But I don't have those don't have those don't have those those things that are keeping me from those things that are keeping me from those things that are keeping me from travel right now travel right now travel right now >> and I don't have people that are relying >> and I don't have people that are relying >> and I don't have people that are relying on me because I've left my job.

on me because I've left my job. on me because I've left my job. >> Why not? Yeah. Why not? So, that's it >> Why not? Yeah. Why not? So, that's it >> Why not? Yeah. Why not? So, that's it was an it was an evolution. was an it was an evolution. was an it was an evolution. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's an evolution that got me here. You >> It's an evolution that got me here. You >> It's an evolution that got me here. You know what else I noticed with older I know what else I noticed with older I know what else I noticed with older I noticed the same thing when I'm when I noticed the same thing when I'm when I noticed the same thing when I'm when I was in Washington State because it's so was in Washington State because it's so was in Washington State because it's so cold outside. I just was in the house a cold outside. I just was in the house a cold outside. I just was in the house a lot and so after dinner, what do you do? lot and so after dinner, what do you do? lot and so after dinner, what do you do? You watch TV. You watch TV. You watch TV. >> Yeah. And what I love about here, I've >> Yeah. And what I love about here, I've >> Yeah. And what I love about here, I've never turned my TV on in my room in two never turned my TV on in my room in two never turned my TV on in my room in two and a half years. As a matter of fact, and a half years. As a matter of fact, and a half years. As a matter of fact, my TV is covered in whiteboard paper, my TV is covered in whiteboard paper, my TV is covered in whiteboard paper, >> so I can [laughter] >> so I can [laughter] >> so I can [laughter] >> you can write on it. >> you can write on it. >> you can write on it. >> But you're out and about all the time. >> But you're out and about all the time. >> But you're out and about all the time. >> And every night there's activities, >> And every night there's activities, >> And every night there's activities, there's beach walks, and older people there's beach walks, and older people there's beach walks, and older people are all integrated into society. Yes. are all integrated into society. Yes. are all integrated into society. Yes. They're not separate. They're not separate. They're not separate. >> And you don't go to age appropriate >> And you don't go to age appropriate >> And you don't go to age appropriate events. Everybody's included in events. Everybody's included in events. Everybody's included in everything. So, weddings and karaoke. everything. So, weddings and karaoke. everything. So, weddings and karaoke. And when I go out with friends, there's And when I go out with friends, there's And when I go out with friends, there's friends that are in their early 20s and friends that are in their early 20s and friends that are in their early 20s and there's friends in their 70s, there's friends in their 70s, there's friends in their 70s, >> right? I tell people it's just a fun >> right? I tell people it's just a fun >> right? I tell people it's just a fun place to live. That's the best way I can place to live. That's the best way I can place to live. That's the best way I can describe it. Every night is Saturday describe it. Every night is Saturday describe it. Every night is Saturday night.

night. night. >> It feels like every night. >> It feels like every night. >> It feels like every night. >> I said it feels like one big huge family >> I said it feels like one big huge family >> I said it feels like one big huge family reunion where I don't recognize people, reunion where I don't recognize people, reunion where I don't recognize people, but everybody's friendly and nice and but everybody's friendly and nice and but everybody's friendly and nice and getting along. people don't have as many getting along. people don't have as many getting along. people don't have as many physical things and I'm much less of a physical things and I'm much less of a physical things and I'm much less of a consumer here consumer here consumer here >> but I don't care as much about my >> but I don't care as much about my >> but I don't care as much about my clothes and the inside of my apartment clothes and the inside of my apartment clothes and the inside of my apartment >> because we're out and about and I always >> because we're out and about and I always >> because we're out and about and I always need to wear need to wear need to wear >> rubbery sandals because it's so wet and >> rubbery sandals because it's so wet and >> rubbery sandals because it's so wet and rainy and muddy so they're $5, you know, rainy and muddy so they're $5, you know, rainy and muddy so they're $5, you know, I'm not at the shoe store buying my I'm not at the shoe store buying my I'm not at the shoe store buying my shoes ever, shoes ever, shoes ever, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> So it's just it it the environment >> So it's just it it the environment >> So it's just it it the environment changes your life and the lifestyle here changes your life and the lifestyle here changes your life and the lifestyle here is much less consumerism, is much less consumerism, is much less consumerism, >> right? And as a result, I'm not >> right? And as a result, I'm not >> right? And as a result, I'm not maintaining things. I'm not and like I maintaining things. I'm not and like I maintaining things. I'm not and like I don't have a car, so I don't have to get don't have a car, so I don't have to get don't have a car, so I don't have to get my car service. I don't need tires. I my car service. I don't need tires. I my car service. I don't need tires. I don't need to go get gas. I'm not paying don't need to go get gas. I'm not paying don't need to go get gas. I'm not paying insurance. We just zip around by insurance. We just zip around by insurance. We just zip around by motorbike. motorbike. motorbike. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's fairly everything just >> Yeah. Yeah. It's fairly everything just >> Yeah. Yeah. It's fairly everything just very simple. very simple. very simple. >> It's simple. >> It's simple. >> It's simple. >> And no one cares >> And no one cares >> And no one cares >> what kind of motorbike you're riding. >> what kind of motorbike you're riding. >> what kind of motorbike you're riding. They don't care what you're wearing. You They don't care what you're wearing. You They don't care what you're wearing. You know, everybody has to wear a helmet, so know, everybody has to wear a helmet, so know, everybody has to wear a helmet, so why make up the hair, you know? So, why make up the hair, you know? So, why make up the hair, you know? So, >> yeah. You get used to that. Like kind of >> yeah. You get used to that. Like kind of >> yeah. You get used to that. Like kind of brush your hair after it comes out of brush your hair after it comes out of brush your hair after it comes out of the helmet and very casual. Yeah, things the helmet and very casual. Yeah, things the helmet and very casual. Yeah, things are very casual and inclusive and are very casual and inclusive and are very casual and inclusive and friendly and no problem. And friendly and no problem. And friendly and no problem. And >> it's just really refreshing to not have >> it's just really refreshing to not have >> it's just really refreshing to not have to worry about that kind of stuff.

to worry about that kind of stuff. to worry about that kind of stuff. >> It's really refreshing. >> It's really refreshing. >> It's really refreshing. >> A lot of times, you know, when I see the >> A lot of times, you know, when I see the >> A lot of times, you know, when I see the Vietnamese women, Vietnamese women, Vietnamese women, >> they're you don't see them with no >> they're you don't see them with no >> they're you don't see them with no makeup on, their nails are not done. A makeup on, their nails are not done. A makeup on, their nails are not done. A lot of them, I mean, they're just really lot of them, I mean, they're just really lot of them, I mean, they're just really natural. Yeah. natural. Yeah. natural. Yeah. >> And they're just so beautiful. Yeah. >> And they're just so beautiful. Yeah. >> And they're just so beautiful. Yeah. >> And it's just uh really nice to see the >> And it's just uh really nice to see the >> And it's just uh really nice to see the confidence. You know what's really funny confidence. You know what's really funny confidence. You know what's really funny is I remember I got a comment on one of is I remember I got a comment on one of is I remember I got a comment on one of my YouTubes and the guy said, "I don't my YouTubes and the guy said, "I don't my YouTubes and the guy said, "I don't mean for this to be offensive at all, mean for this to be offensive at all, mean for this to be offensive at all, but do you you don't mind not wearing but do you you don't mind not wearing but do you you don't mind not wearing makeup?" And he said, "Because my wife makeup?" And he said, "Because my wife makeup?" And he said, "Because my wife and I were visiting Vietnam and she said and I were visiting Vietnam and she said and I were visiting Vietnam and she said she felt very comfortable not wearing she felt very comfortable not wearing she felt very comfortable not wearing makeup when she was home. She felt like makeup when she was home. She felt like makeup when she was home. She felt like she had to wear it." she had to wear it." she had to wear it." >> And I said, "That's such a good point >> And I said, "That's such a good point >> And I said, "That's such a good point because I don't I feel accepted and because I don't I feel accepted and because I don't I feel accepted and fine." We're also in a beach city. Yeah. fine." We're also in a beach city. Yeah. fine." We're also in a beach city. Yeah. So you see people walking by you that So you see people walking by you that So you see people walking by you that are dripping wet because they just came are dripping wet because they just came are dripping wet because they just came out of the the ocean, right? and every out of the the ocean, right? and every out of the the ocean, right? and every different country and every different different country and every different different country and every different way of living and religion and belief way of living and religion and belief way of living and religion and belief system. So you don't you don't care if system. So you don't you don't care if system. So you don't you don't care if somebody has makeup on or not and you somebody has makeup on or not and you somebody has makeup on or not and you don't notice the way that I notice in a don't notice the way that I notice in a don't notice the way that I notice in a different environment where everybody's different environment where everybody's different environment where everybody's very similar. If I walked out of the very similar. If I walked out of the very similar. If I walked out of the house and I ran into friends, they said, house and I ran into friends, they said, house and I ran into friends, they said, "Do you want to grab lunch and I don't "Do you want to grab lunch and I don't "Do you want to grab lunch and I don't have makeup on, I might feel have makeup on, I might feel have makeup on, I might feel uncomfortable going into the uncomfortable going into the uncomfortable going into the restaurant."

restaurant." restaurant." >> So it was eye opening for me to think >> So it was eye opening for me to think >> So it was eye opening for me to think through his answer and I thought, "No, I through his answer and I thought, "No, I through his answer and I thought, "No, I don't I don't care. hair. As a matter of don't I don't care. hair. As a matter of don't I don't care. hair. As a matter of fact, I'll film a video and I'll post it fact, I'll film a video and I'll post it fact, I'll film a video and I'll post it on YouTube with no makeup because that's on YouTube with no makeup because that's on YouTube with no makeup because that's how much it's just not a thing. how much it's just not a thing. how much it's just not a thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The number one question I get asked is, >> The number one question I get asked is, >> The number one question I get asked is, "Are you safe when I'm traveling?" "Are you safe when I'm traveling?" "Are you safe when I'm traveling?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I remember being um in Colombia and >> And I remember being um in Colombia and >> And I remember being um in Colombia and some they I was at a language exchange some they I was at a language exchange some they I was at a language exchange where you can go to a coffee shop and where you can go to a coffee shop and where you can go to a coffee shop and they put two Spanish speakers and two they put two Spanish speakers and two they put two Spanish speakers and two English speakers and then you're you're English speakers and then you're you're English speakers and then you're you're you're just having conver conversations you're just having conver conversations you're just having conver conversations trying to learn each other's language. trying to learn each other's language. trying to learn each other's language. And I was talking with one of the girls And I was talking with one of the girls And I was talking with one of the girls from Columbia and I said, "Oh, have you from Columbia and I said, "Oh, have you from Columbia and I said, "Oh, have you ever been to the US?" And and she said, ever been to the US?" And and she said, ever been to the US?" And and she said, "No." And I said, "Oh, do you ever want "No." And I said, "Oh, do you ever want "No." And I said, "Oh, do you ever want to go?" And she said, "No." And then she to go?" And she said, "No." And then she to go?" And she said, "No." And then she said, "It's too dangerous." And I said, "It's too dangerous." And I said, "It's too dangerous." And I thought, "That's funny." And I said, thought, "That's funny." And I said, thought, "That's funny." And I said, "You know what's interesting is when I'm "You know what's interesting is when I'm "You know what's interesting is when I'm here in Colombia, people are like, here in Colombia, people are like, here in Colombia, people are like, >> you know, are you safe?" Yeah. >> you know, are you safe?" Yeah. >> you know, are you safe?" Yeah. >> And she's like, >> And she's like, >> And she's like, >> why? >> why? >> why? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I said, because Columbia has a >> And I said, because Columbia has a >> And I said, because Columbia has a reputation for not being safe. And she reputation for not being safe. And she reputation for not being safe. And she said, 'Well, if you're in the wrong if said, 'Well, if you're in the wrong if said, 'Well, if you're in the wrong if you're on the like the drug jungle you're on the like the drug jungle you're on the like the drug jungle pathways, but not like in these touristy pathways, but not like in these touristy pathways, but not like in these touristy areas. And I was in Medigene at the time areas. And I was in Medigene at the time areas. And I was in Medigene at the time and I remember seeing there's malls and and I remember seeing there's malls and and I remember seeing there's malls and medians and beautiful cars and it it was medians and beautiful cars and it it was medians and beautiful cars and it it was a different it was a different country a different it was a different country a different it was a different country than I had pictured. Yeah. In my mind.

than I had pictured. Yeah. In my mind. than I had pictured. Yeah. In my mind. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> but they the same way that we see on the >> but they the same way that we see on the >> but they the same way that we see on the news all the things happening around the news all the things happening around the news all the things happening around the world, they see all those things world, they see all those things world, they see all those things happening in the US. Yeah. And it same happening in the US. Yeah. And it same happening in the US. Yeah. And it same thing happened in South Africa where thing happened in South Africa where thing happened in South Africa where some girls said I would never go to the some girls said I would never go to the some girls said I would never go to the US. It's it's way too dangerous. And I US. It's it's way too dangerous. And I US. It's it's way too dangerous. And I thought I don't think that Americans thought I don't think that Americans thought I don't think that Americans realize that a lot of countries people realize that a lot of countries people realize that a lot of countries people will not come to the US because it's will not come to the US because it's will not come to the US because it's dangerous. dangerous. dangerous. >> Yeah. And also, you know, the women >> Yeah. And also, you know, the women >> Yeah. And also, you know, the women here, Vietnamese women, when I was here, Vietnamese women, when I was here, Vietnamese women, when I was single before I used to date and um you single before I used to date and um you single before I used to date and um you know, they would have no worries at all know, they would have no worries at all know, they would have no worries at all going home at 11 or walking home at 11. going home at 11 or walking home at 11. going home at 11 or walking home at 11. It's never even in their mind of It's never even in their mind of It's never even in their mind of something bad's going to happen something bad's going to happen something bad's going to happen >> because it's not >> because it's not >> because it's not >> I know >> I know >> I know >> it's not [laughter] going to happen. >> it's not [laughter] going to happen. >> it's not [laughter] going to happen. >> But in America, we can't even let the >> But in America, we can't even let the >> But in America, we can't even let the kids go to school. I mean, we or the the kids go to school. I mean, we or the the kids go to school. I mean, we or the the girls are are scared because there's girls are are scared because there's girls are are scared because there's just crazy people and it's just um just crazy people and it's just um just crazy people and it's just um >> yeah, as a society, I've never never >> yeah, as a society, I've never never >> yeah, as a society, I've never never been fearful. And I was walking with a been fearful. And I was walking with a been fearful. And I was walking with a friend and I said, "It's 11 at night and friend and I said, "It's 11 at night and friend and I said, "It's 11 at night and I feel like I could go 20 minutes in any I feel like I could go 20 minutes in any I feel like I could go 20 minutes in any direction. I would have no concerns by direction. I would have no concerns by direction. I would have no concerns by myself as a girl. every because because myself as a girl. every because because myself as a girl. every because because it feels like community like extended it feels like community like extended it feels like community like extended communities communities communities >> and I don't know any bad area, >> and I don't know any bad area, >> and I don't know any bad area, >> right? Neither do I.

>> right? Neither do I. >> right? Neither do I. >> And everybody is if if anything were to >> And everybody is if if anything were to >> And everybody is if if anything were to bubble up, everybody would get involved. bubble up, everybody would get involved. bubble up, everybody would get involved. It's not a look the other way and it's It's not a look the other way and it's It's not a look the other way and it's not my problem. So it feels to me like not my problem. So it feels to me like not my problem. So it feels to me like everybody takes ownership for their everybody takes ownership for their everybody takes ownership for their neighborhood and their community and neighborhood and their community and neighborhood and their community and that kind of creates that general feel that kind of creates that general feel that kind of creates that general feel of safety and kids are playing in the of safety and kids are playing in the of safety and kids are playing in the streets. What I have noticed also is streets. What I have noticed also is streets. What I have noticed also is when I first got here, I loved the when I first got here, I loved the when I first got here, I loved the environment like and I was still viewing environment like and I was still viewing environment like and I was still viewing it like an environment. I loved the it like an environment. I loved the it like an environment. I loved the beach. I loved the friends I was making. beach. I loved the friends I was making. beach. I loved the friends I was making. I love the activities I was doing. I love the activities I was doing. I love the activities I was doing. >> And the longer I stay, the more I think >> And the longer I stay, the more I think >> And the longer I stay, the more I think I love the culture and I love the people I love the culture and I love the people I love the culture and I love the people and I it it shifts and it's like a and I it it shifts and it's like a and I it it shifts and it's like a deeper deeper deeper >> care. >> care. >> care. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> For being here. >> For being here. >> For being here. >> You start understanding. >> You start understanding. >> You start understanding. >> Yeah. It's not everybody's together like >> Yeah. It's not everybody's together like >> Yeah. It's not everybody's together like >> you know where we're from everybody's >> you know where we're from everybody's >> you know where we're from everybody's against each other. against each other. against each other. >> If I if a foreigner comes in and they're >> If I if a foreigner comes in and they're >> If I if a foreigner comes in and they're not behaving appropriately I feel not behaving appropriately I feel not behaving appropriately I feel defensive and I need [laughter] to go defensive and I need [laughter] to go defensive and I need [laughter] to go fix that. fix that. fix that. >> Yeah. Me too. >> Yeah. Me too. >> Yeah. Me too. >> You don't you don't talk to me and my >> You don't you don't talk to me and my >> You don't you don't talk to me and my friends friends friends >> you know in this restaurant this way.

>> you know in this restaurant this way. >> you know in this restaurant this way. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> One thing specifically about Daen is >> One thing specifically about Daen is >> One thing specifically about Daen is that people are talking about the growth that people are talking about the growth that people are talking about the growth >> that it's experiencing. And so I went to >> that it's experiencing. And so I went to >> that it's experiencing. And so I went to a panel probably two months ago all a panel probably two months ago all a panel probably two months ago all talking about what's coming for Daen and talking about what's coming for Daen and talking about what's coming for Daen and it's exponential yeah it's exponential yeah it's exponential yeah >> growth for this area. >> growth for this area. >> growth for this area. >> So the GM from a resort said if you love >> So the GM from a resort said if you love >> So the GM from a resort said if you love Daang the way it is right now it's going Daang the way it is right now it's going Daang the way it is right now it's going to be different in six months and it's to be different in six months and it's to be different in six months and it's going to be different in a year because going to be different in a year because going to be different in a year because they are highly investing and have they are highly investing and have they are highly investing and have approved projects for this area approved projects for this area approved projects for this area specifically. So, I know that a lot of specifically. So, I know that a lot of specifically. So, I know that a lot of people are feeling and seeing all the people are feeling and seeing all the people are feeling and seeing all the development here, but like you said, the development here, but like you said, the development here, but like you said, the highspeed rail, multiple highrises. I highspeed rail, multiple highrises. I highspeed rail, multiple highrises. I think they're doing the top one or two think they're doing the top one or two think they're doing the top one or two highest buildings in all of highest buildings in all of highest buildings in all of >> Yes, they are. >> Yes, they are. >> Yes, they are. >> Vietnam, >> Vietnam, >> Vietnam, >> the downtown project. >> the downtown project. >> the downtown project. >> Yeah. Multi-billion dollar projects like >> Yeah. Multi-billion dollar projects like >> Yeah. Multi-billion dollar projects like with Sunworld and with Sunworld and with Sunworld and >> um I heard 30 new highrises. >> um I heard 30 new highrises. >> um I heard 30 new highrises. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Along the beach, the financial center is >> Along the beach, the financial center is >> Along the beach, the financial center is going in. going in. going in. >> I've heard it being called Singapore >> I've heard it being called Singapore >> I've heard it being called Singapore Light. Light. Light. >> Yeah. So, I think we're going to see a >> Yeah. So, I think we're going to see a >> Yeah. So, I think we're going to see a lot of lot of lot of >> Well, it's definitely changing >> Well, it's definitely changing >> Well, it's definitely changing economically here.

economically here. economically here. >> Lot of change and a huge push for >> Lot of change and a huge push for >> Lot of change and a huge push for tourism, tourism, tourism, >> tour buses, the five-star airport. >> tour buses, the five-star airport. >> tour buses, the five-star airport. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah, I think we're we're right at >> So, yeah, I think we're we're right at >> So, yeah, I think we're we're right at the base of like the rocket ship. So, the base of like the rocket ship. So, the base of like the rocket ship. So, [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] what is helpful for me is to know that what is helpful for me is to know that what is helpful for me is to know that it's coming. it's coming. it's coming. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That rather than like, oh, I don't like >> That rather than like, oh, I don't like >> That rather than like, oh, I don't like to see all the development and know to see all the development and know to see all the development and know there's going to be a huge financial there's going to be a huge financial there's going to be a huge financial center and that's going to bring a center and that's going to bring a center and that's going to bring a certain demographic. certain demographic. certain demographic. >> Huge. They're making it a um high-end >> Huge. They're making it a um high-end >> Huge. They're making it a um high-end lifestyle destination and the Nou lifestyle destination and the Nou lifestyle destination and the Nou restaurant and residences. So things restaurant and residences. So things restaurant and residences. So things will be changing very quickly around will be changing very quickly around will be changing very quickly around here. You know what's funny is when I here. You know what's funny is when I here. You know what's funny is when I was back in Santa Monica in this past was back in Santa Monica in this past was back in Santa Monica in this past February. February. February. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I my first night at home I remember >> I my first night at home I remember >> I my first night at home I remember after dinner I was sitting on the couch. after dinner I was sitting on the couch. after dinner I was sitting on the couch. I [snorts] thought it's so quiet. I [snorts] thought it's so quiet. I [snorts] thought it's so quiet. >> I know. It's weird, right? >> I know. It's weird, right? >> I know. It's weird, right? >> It's so quiet. You open a window. It is >> It's so quiet. You open a window. It is >> It's so quiet. You open a window. It is dead silent. Nobody's outside. It's dead silent. Nobody's outside. It's dead silent. Nobody's outside. It's dark. dark. dark. >> And it was probably 7 7:30 at night. I >> And it was probably 7 7:30 at night. I >> And it was probably 7 7:30 at night. I thought everybody's in their houses. And thought everybody's in their houses. And thought everybody's in their houses. And I sat there and I thought, what do I do I sat there and I thought, what do I do I sat there and I thought, what do I do now? now? now? >> It's so quiet and there's not really >> It's so quiet and there's not really >> It's so quiet and there's not really anywhere anywhere anywhere >> to go and nobody's out. And I thought I >> to go and nobody's out. And I thought I >> to go and nobody's out. And I thought I forgot that forgot that forgot that >> it's not that way here.

>> it's not that way here. >> it's not that way here. >> You just walk outside and it is a band >> You just walk outside and it is a band >> You just walk outside and it is a band is playing, people are a dog is running is playing, people are a dog is running is playing, people are a dog is running by, construction truck. There's by, construction truck. There's by, construction truck. There's >> I can go down any block in any direction >> I can go down any block in any direction >> I can go down any block in any direction and be thoroughly entertained until I'm and be thoroughly entertained until I'm and be thoroughly entertained until I'm ready to go to sleep. ready to go to sleep. ready to go to sleep. >> Right. Right. [laughter] It is exciting >> Right. Right. [laughter] It is exciting >> Right. Right. [laughter] It is exciting to sit down and just people watch. to sit down and just people watch. to sit down and just people watch. >> That's fun. >> That's fun. >> That's fun. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, >> you know, I also had a bit of a fear of >> you know, I also had a bit of a fear of >> you know, I also had a bit of a fear of am I going to like it or I might see am I going to like it or I might see am I going to like it or I might see something online. something online. something online. [clears throat] I might see something [clears throat] I might see something [clears throat] I might see something and think, "Oh, I'm not going to like and think, "Oh, I'm not going to like and think, "Oh, I'm not going to like that. I wouldn't like to live in an that. I wouldn't like to live in an that. I wouldn't like to live in an apartment. I won't I'm not going to like apartment. I won't I'm not going to like apartment. I won't I'm not going to like whatever it was." And not realizing when whatever it was." And not realizing when whatever it was." And not realizing when you get there, you change. you get there, you change. you get there, you change. >> And you start enjoying that thing. >> And you start enjoying that thing. >> And you start enjoying that thing. [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] You start enjoying that thing. And it's You start enjoying that thing. And it's You start enjoying that thing. And it's it's the whole package, it's the whole package, it's the whole package, >> right? So >> right? So >> right? So where before I loved living more in in a where before I loved living more in in a where before I loved living more in in a house, maybe it was quieter and here house, maybe it was quieter and here house, maybe it was quieter and here maybe if I was watching Vietnam from a maybe if I was watching Vietnam from a maybe if I was watching Vietnam from a distance, I might think I'm not going to distance, I might think I'm not going to distance, I might think I'm not going to like it. It's too noisy with like it. It's too noisy with like it. It's too noisy with construction and and honking. When construction and and honking. When construction and and honking. When you're here, I love it. Yeah. you're here, I love it. Yeah. you're here, I love it. Yeah. >> And the lifestyle is running around and >> And the lifestyle is running around and >> And the lifestyle is running around and going to the beach and and all these going to the beach and and all these going to the beach and and all these things. So, what I would encourage things. So, what I would encourage things. So, what I would encourage people to do is go try it out for people to do is go try it out for people to do is go try it out for themselves and not think you're not themselves and not think you're not themselves and not think you're not going to like something based on your going to like something based on your going to like something based on your current situation current situation current situation >> because you do change and also when >> because you do change and also when >> because you do change and also when you're in an environment things just you're in an environment things just you're in an environment things just make more sense when you're there, make more sense when you're there, make more sense when you're there, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> Um, so what are your future plans? >> Um, so what are your future plans? >> Um, so what are your future plans? >> I don't have future plans. >> I don't have future plans. >> I don't have future plans. >> Good. >> Good. >> Good. >> Yeah. What I'm doing is it I didn't ever >> Yeah. What I'm doing is it I didn't ever >> Yeah. What I'm doing is it I didn't ever expect to be here for this length of expect to be here for this length of expect to be here for this length of time. Um, I still have things back in time. Um, I still have things back in time. Um, I still have things back in Santa Monica, so I'm not like extracted Santa Monica, so I'm not like extracted Santa Monica, so I'm not like extracted and and free. I go back. and and free. I go back. and and free. I go back. >> You still have plan? You still have plan >> You still have plan? You still have plan >> You still have plan? You still have plan B? B? B? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you plan on going back to Santa >> So, you plan on going back to Santa >> So, you plan on going back to Santa Monica soon or? Monica soon or? Monica soon or? >> Uh, I just go back when my tenant moves >> Uh, I just go back when my tenant moves >> Uh, I just go back when my tenant moves out and I need to do some things around out and I need to do some things around out and I need to do some things around the place and then renew it. So, the place and then renew it. So, the place and then renew it. So, >> no plans as of right now. >> no plans as of right now. >> no plans as of right now. >> I actually have a fun story. My mom, I >> I actually have a fun story. My mom, I >> I actually have a fun story. My mom, I was in Mai and we had been talking about was in Mai and we had been talking about was in Mai and we had been talking about her visiting me. I was thinking about her visiting me. I was thinking about her visiting me. I was thinking about going to Switzerland in the summertime going to Switzerland in the summertime going to Switzerland in the summertime and it was February and while I was in and it was February and while I was in and it was February and while I was in Mai, I thought it is so beautiful here. Mai, I thought it is so beautiful here. Mai, I thought it is so beautiful here. There's the flower festival. There's, There's the flower festival. There's, There's the flower festival. There's, you know, Pod Thai, you know, Chiangg you know, Pod Thai, you know, Chiangg you know, Pod Thai, you know, Chiangg Mai, it's the moes and the temples and Mai, it's the moes and the temples and Mai, it's the moes and the temples and I, so I messaged her and said, "Mom, do I, so I messaged her and said, "Mom, do I, so I messaged her and said, "Mom, do you want to come to Chiang Mai and see you want to come to Chiang Mai and see you want to come to Chiang Mai and see Thailand? I think you'd really enjoy it. Thailand? I think you'd really enjoy it. Thailand? I think you'd really enjoy it. We can go see elephants and you get We can go see elephants and you get We can go see elephants and you get massages and go to the night markets."

massages and go to the night markets." massages and go to the night markets." And she said, "Sure." So we booked her a And she said, "Sure." So we booked her a And she said, "Sure." So we booked her a ticket to come out for two weeks. ticket to come out for two weeks. ticket to come out for two weeks. >> Oh, great. >> Oh, great. >> Oh, great. >> And so she landed and we did everything. >> And so she landed and we did everything. >> And so she landed and we did everything. We went to all of the events, all the We went to all of the events, all the We went to all of the events, all the massages, all the night markets. She met massages, all the night markets. She met massages, all the night markets. She met friends of mine that I I knew there. friends of mine that I I knew there. friends of mine that I I knew there. >> And the first week she was enjoying it >> And the first week she was enjoying it >> And the first week she was enjoying it so much I said, "You don't you don't so much I said, "You don't you don't so much I said, "You don't you don't have to go back. I'll be here for a few have to go back. I'll be here for a few have to go back. I'll be here for a few more weeks and then I'm going to Vietnam more weeks and then I'm going to Vietnam more weeks and then I'm going to Vietnam after this and you're welcome to travel after this and you're welcome to travel after this and you're welcome to travel with me." with me." with me." >> Okay. We canled her return >> Okay. We canled her return >> Okay. We canled her return >> and that was right when COVID was >> and that was right when COVID was >> and that was right when COVID was breaking out. Mh. breaking out. Mh. breaking out. Mh. >> So we got here in So she came here with >> So we got here in So she came here with >> So we got here in So she came here with me me me >> and she was here the first week of March >> and she was here the first week of March >> and she was here the first week of March and that's when flights were getting a and that's when flights were getting a and that's when flights were getting a little dicey. little dicey. little dicey. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So we just kept an eye on it. But what I >> So we just kept an eye on it. But what I >> So we just kept an eye on it. But what I loved about her being here is we just loved about her being here is we just loved about her being here is we just had so much fun. We were like two kids had so much fun. We were like two kids had so much fun. We were like two kids zipping around on motorbikes. We're zipping around on motorbikes. We're zipping around on motorbikes. We're spinning on coconut boats down in Hoyan. spinning on coconut boats down in Hoyan. spinning on coconut boats down in Hoyan. She's meeting my friends here which was She's meeting my friends here which was She's meeting my friends here which was really nice for me because she would really nice for me because she would really nice for me because she would often call and say, you know, are you often call and say, you know, are you often call and say, you know, are you lonely? Are you alone? I worry about you lonely? Are you alone? I worry about you lonely? Are you alone? I worry about you being alone. And this way she could see. being alone. And this way she could see. being alone. And this way she could see. I said, "Mom, I'm never alone." I said, "Mom, I'm never alone." I said, "Mom, I'm never alone." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And now you can meet my friends and we >> And now you can meet my friends and we >> And now you can meet my friends and we go to dinners at each other's houses and go to dinners at each other's houses and go to dinners at each other's houses and we celebrate and you can see it now and we celebrate and you can see it now and we celebrate and you can see it now and feel it. You know exactly where I am.

feel it. You know exactly where I am. feel it. You know exactly where I am. >> So we ended up putting her getting her a >> So we ended up putting her getting her a >> So we ended up putting her getting her a flight back because flights were flight back because flights were flight back because flights were becoming more and more limited. But she becoming more and more limited. But she becoming more and more limited. But she was here for six weeks. was here for six weeks. was here for six weeks. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Between Thailand and uh Vietnam. >> Between Thailand and uh Vietnam. >> Between Thailand and uh Vietnam. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And it was it she was um very very very >> And it was it she was um very very very >> And it was it she was um very very very you know active, healthy, energetic. In you know active, healthy, energetic. In you know active, healthy, energetic. In in Thailand people asked if we were in Thailand people asked if we were in Thailand people asked if we were sisters because we look very similar. sisters because we look very similar. sisters because we look very similar. Yeah. Um, but she hit some medical Yeah. Um, but she hit some medical Yeah. Um, but she hit some medical issues after that and that was the last issues after that and that was the last issues after that and that was the last international trip she'd ever take. international trip she'd ever take. international trip she'd ever take. >> And we did it six weeks together. Fun, >> And we did it six weeks together. Fun, >> And we did it six weeks together. Fun, silly time, not a care in the world. silly time, not a care in the world. silly time, not a care in the world. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And had we waited, she wouldn't have >> And had we waited, she wouldn't have >> And had we waited, she wouldn't have been able to go to Switzerland. been able to go to Switzerland. been able to go to Switzerland. >> So, I just think that those times are >> So, I just think that those times are >> So, I just think that those times are >> definitely >> definitely >> definitely >> really important. People like to plan. >> really important. People like to plan. >> really important. People like to plan. They go, "Not now. It's not a good time. They go, "Not now. It's not a good time. They go, "Not now. It's not a good time. There's not enough money. There's not There's not enough money. There's not There's not enough money. There's not this." And I think just do it. Yeah. this." And I think just do it. Yeah. this." And I think just do it. Yeah. >> Because you never know. >> Because you never know. >> Because you never know. >> Yeah. And I have all these memories now >> Yeah. And I have all these memories now >> Yeah. And I have all these memories now of her and all these videos of her. What of her and all these videos of her. What of her and all these videos of her. What was fun, too, is for the her birthday was fun, too, is for the her birthday was fun, too, is for the her birthday right after that trip, I coordinated all right after that trip, I coordinated all right after that trip, I coordinated all of our friends that she had met to do a of our friends that she had met to do a of our friends that she had met to do a video call. video call. video call. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> So, she's back in Washington and all >> So, she's back in Washington and all >> So, she's back in Washington and all these people around the world are these people around the world are these people around the world are calling in that she had met while she calling in that she had met while she calling in that she had met while she was here. So, yeah, it's great. Great.

was here. So, yeah, it's great. Great. was here. So, yeah, it's great. Great. Great. Great. Great. >> Good excitement for her, you know. >> Good excitement for her, you know. >> Good excitement for her, you know. >> Loved it. >> Loved it. >> Loved it. >> And um um yeah, that's what what uh do >> And um um yeah, that's what what uh do >> And um um yeah, that's what what uh do you have something coming up in the you have something coming up in the you have something coming up in the future on that or future on that or future on that or >> Yes. So, the channel is called What >> Yes. So, the channel is called What >> Yes. So, the channel is called What Susan Does, right? And so once I started Susan Does, right? And so once I started Susan Does, right? And so once I started it, I've just been doing what uh what it, I've just been doing what uh what it, I've just been doing what uh what feels happy and right. I've been sharing feels happy and right. I've been sharing feels happy and right. I've been sharing daang. I've been sharing mindset daang. I've been sharing mindset daang. I've been sharing mindset lifestyle tips and tricks. I get a lot lifestyle tips and tricks. I get a lot lifestyle tips and tricks. I get a lot of questions in the DMs. So sometimes of questions in the DMs. So sometimes of questions in the DMs. So sometimes I'll just sit down and try to answer I'll just sit down and try to answer I'll just sit down and try to answer them. them. them. >> I also do a lot of just mindset work. So >> I also do a lot of just mindset work. So >> I also do a lot of just mindset work. So if people are are struggling and they if people are are struggling and they if people are are struggling and they think, "Wow, I'd love to do what you're think, "Wow, I'd love to do what you're think, "Wow, I'd love to do what you're doing, but I'm just I'm scared. I want doing, but I'm just I'm scared. I want doing, but I'm just I'm scared. I want to know what it's gonna the first step to know what it's gonna the first step to know what it's gonna the first step is going to feel like or the third step is going to feel like or the third step is going to feel like or the third step or can I just talk with you specifically or can I just talk with you specifically or can I just talk with you specifically about some things I don't you know I about some things I don't you know I about some things I don't you know I just need a person to to talk with. So I just need a person to to talk with. So I just need a person to to talk with. So I have um calls set up have um calls set up have um calls set up >> that people can reach me directly and we >> that people can reach me directly and we >> that people can reach me directly and we can do a a coaching call. can do a a coaching call. can do a a coaching call. >> And then on my channel too I have so >> And then on my channel too I have so >> And then on my channel too I have so many questions a lot of them are similar many questions a lot of them are similar many questions a lot of them are similar questions of like how did you do it? How questions of like how did you do it? How questions of like how did you do it? How did you do so many things whether it's did you do so many things whether it's did you do so many things whether it's travel logistics or what how do you feel travel logistics or what how do you feel travel logistics or what how do you feel as a woman traveling that I'm currently as a woman traveling that I'm currently as a woman traveling that I'm currently working on putting together some courses working on putting together some courses working on putting together some courses to be able to help people and and so to be able to help people and and so to be able to help people and and so that I've done things the hard way that I've done things the hard way that I've done things the hard way >> that's how we learn >> that's how we learn >> that's how we learn >> that's how we learn apparently I love to >> that's how we learn apparently I love to >> that's how we learn apparently I love to do things the hard way and I've learned do things the hard way and I've learned do things the hard way and I've learned so much and I think oh gosh I could put so much and I think oh gosh I could put so much and I think oh gosh I could put together these courses you know what to together these courses you know what to together these courses you know what to pack how to set up your banking how to pack how to set up your banking how to pack how to set up your banking how to be a landlord how to manage your be a landlord how to manage your be a landlord how to manage your finances how to make friends. And then finances how to make friends. And then finances how to make friends. And then specifically as a woman, uh, products,

specifically as a woman, uh, products, specifically as a woman, uh, products, um, interactions with men, safety, all um, interactions with men, safety, all um, interactions with men, safety, all of those things that women deal with and of those things that women deal with and of those things that women deal with and might have fears about with traveling to might have fears about with traveling to might have fears about with traveling to put their fears at rest, give them the put their fears at rest, give them the put their fears at rest, give them the the answers, the direction, um, the the answers, the direction, um, the the answers, the direction, um, the peace, the confidence to go live a peace, the confidence to go live a peace, the confidence to go live a second life. Yeah. So that's what that's second life. Yeah. So that's what that's second life. Yeah. So that's what that's what excites me about my channel is what excites me about my channel is what excites me about my channel is being able to help other people to to being able to help other people to to being able to help other people to to move forward in their and have move forward in their and have move forward in their and have adventures themselves. And one of the adventures themselves. And one of the adventures themselves. And one of the things that I tell in the to my coaching things that I tell in the to my coaching things that I tell in the to my coaching clients is they'll say, "Well, I asked clients is they'll say, "Well, I asked clients is they'll say, "Well, I asked my mom or I asked my best friend and my mom or I asked my best friend and my mom or I asked my best friend and they're like they're scared for me to to they're like they're scared for me to to they're like they're scared for me to to go." And I said, "You don't want to ask go." And I said, "You don't want to ask go." And I said, "You don't want to ask those people, those people, those people, >> right? [laughter] All due respect, you want to ask someone All due respect, you want to ask someone who's doing and living the life that you who's doing and living the life that you who's doing and living the life that you are interested in. are interested in. are interested in. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh because other people have other fears >> Uh because other people have other fears >> Uh because other people have other fears that belong to them, but they don't that belong to them, but they don't that belong to them, but they don't belong to you. belong to you. belong to you. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> And your desires and your life is is >> And your desires and your life is is >> And your desires and your life is is different. So make sure that you're different. So make sure that you're different. So make sure that you're getting your input from the right getting your input from the right getting your input from the right person.

person. person. >> True. >> True. >> True. >> One of the things that I said on the >> One of the things that I said on the >> One of the things that I said on the second interview is I said we we're second interview is I said we we're second interview is I said we we're always saving for someday. And at some always saving for someday. And at some always saving for someday. And at some point I think I said when when is point I think I said when when is point I think I said when when is someday? Someday just by definition someday? Someday just by definition someday? Someday just by definition alone is like in the future. alone is like in the future. alone is like in the future. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And and who decides when is someday? >> And and who decides when is someday? >> And and who decides when is someday? >> And is it a decision by your company >> And is it a decision by your company >> And is it a decision by your company that says you have to work until this that says you have to work until this that says you have to work until this specific age? Yeah. specific age? Yeah. specific age? Yeah. >> And while I was traveling in that year >> And while I was traveling in that year >> And while I was traveling in that year off that I never returned to work from. off that I never returned to work from. off that I never returned to work from. I was noticing older couples that had I was noticing older couples that had I was noticing older couples that had were retired, but they weren't running were retired, but they weren't running were retired, but they weren't running around waterfalls or it really enjoying around waterfalls or it really enjoying around waterfalls or it really enjoying the experience of traveling and living the experience of traveling and living the experience of traveling and living abroad. abroad. abroad. >> They were more sitting at a a resort, >> They were more sitting at a a resort, >> They were more sitting at a a resort, >> having dinner, maybe listening to some >> having dinner, maybe listening to some >> having dinner, maybe listening to some music. And I thought, I don't they music. And I thought, I don't they music. And I thought, I don't they >> I hope they didn't miss all of the the >> I hope they didn't miss all of the the >> I hope they didn't miss all of the the adventure travel. Yes, that's what I adventure travel. Yes, that's what I adventure travel. Yes, that's what I wanted to do, some more adventure travel wanted to do, some more adventure travel wanted to do, some more adventure travel and and living life. and and living life. and and living life. >> When is someday? And who decides when is >> When is someday? And who decides when is >> When is someday? And who decides when is someday? And is someday allowed to be someday? And is someday allowed to be someday? And is someday allowed to be now? Am I allowed am I allowed to do now? Am I allowed am I allowed to do now? Am I allowed am I allowed to do things now? Can I just things now? Can I just things now? Can I just can I do this? And it was interesting can I do this? And it was interesting can I do this? And it was interesting because my friends would say too like because my friends would say too like because my friends would say too like are you are you allowed? And someone are you are you allowed? And someone are you are you allowed? And someone said is that responsible? And I thought said is that responsible? And I thought said is that responsible? And I thought that's such a mindset of how I was up that's such a mindset of how I was up that's such a mindset of how I was up raised is be responsible and keep raised is be responsible and keep raised is be responsible and keep working, but for what? Yeah. Until what working, but for what? Yeah. Until what working, but for what? Yeah. Until what point? And what I noticed is my mental point? And what I noticed is my mental point? And what I noticed is my mental track was as you are continuing to work, track was as you are continuing to work, track was as you are continuing to work, you are saving more and more money. And you are saving more and more money. And you are saving more and more money. And then my peers would buy a nicer car or a

then my peers would buy a nicer car or a then my peers would buy a nicer car or a nicer house or an RV to go camping with nicer house or an RV to go camping with nicer house or an RV to go camping with their family. And I thought those aren't their family. And I thought those aren't their family. And I thought those aren't the things I want to do. Where at what the things I want to do. Where at what the things I want to do. Where at what point do we save some money and then we point do we save some money and then we point do we save some money and then we stop working and go play? stop working and go play? stop working and go play? >> That's what I want to go do. >> That's what I want to go do. >> That's what I want to go do. >> And other people weren't weren't doing >> And other people weren't weren't doing >> And other people weren't weren't doing that. I thought, well, maybe I just need that. I thought, well, maybe I just need that. I thought, well, maybe I just need to do it and I'll to do it and I'll to do it and I'll >> if I have regrets, at least I'll know. >> if I have regrets, at least I'll know. >> if I have regrets, at least I'll know. At least I will have done it, At least I will have done it, At least I will have done it, >> but maybe I won't. >> but maybe I won't. >> but maybe I won't. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's a chance I have to take >> And it's a chance I have to take >> And it's a chance I have to take >> and so let's go. >> and so let's go. >> and so let's go. >> That's a wrap on the podcast. We I hung >> That's a wrap on the podcast. We I hung >> That's a wrap on the podcast. We I hung out for a while afterwards just uh out for a while afterwards just uh out for a while afterwards just uh shooting the breeze with the two guys, shooting the breeze with the two guys, shooting the breeze with the two guys, laughing, talking, talking about the laughing, talking, talking about the laughing, talking, talking about the neighborhoods and building and neighborhoods and building and neighborhoods and building and construction and property management and construction and property management and construction and property management and everything happening in Daang. And now everything happening in Daang. And now everything happening in Daang. And now it's still very warm. I am It's probably it's still very warm. I am It's probably it's still very warm. I am It's probably about 9:00. Um going to take a nice about 9:00. Um going to take a nice about 9:00. Um going to take a nice leisurely walk home. So let's see if we leisurely walk home. So let's see if we leisurely walk home. So let's see if we find anything on the way. So walking find anything on the way. So walking find anything on the way. So walking home, I just passed this [music] really home, I just passed this [music] really home, I just passed this [music] really nice lit area that's across from a speak nice lit area that's across from a speak nice lit area that's across from a speak easy. And there's this random ice cream easy. And there's this random ice cream easy. And there's this random ice cream cone.

cone. cone. That's what I love about Vietnam. That's what I love about Vietnam. That's what I love about Vietnam. Ice cream cone. We are approaching the cross street in We are approaching the cross street in front of me is called the bar street front of me is called the bar street front of me is called the bar street and it's all bars. So, we'll just take a and it's all bars. So, we'll just take a and it's all bars. So, we'll just take a quick look as we walk down on the way quick look as we walk down on the way quick look as we walk down on the way back I'm thinking I'm thinking it makes a lot of sense it makes a lot of sense it makes a lot of sense to Oh, puppies. to Oh, puppies. to Oh, puppies. The pile of dirt. I'm thinking it makes The pile of dirt. I'm thinking it makes The pile of dirt. I'm thinking it makes a [music] lot of sense to stop and get a a [music] lot of sense to stop and get a a [music] lot of sense to stop and get a foot massage.